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The Dharma Overground is a resource for the support of hardcore meditation practice. It is a place where everything related to the support of practice may flourish, including where to go on retreats, what techniques may lead to what, an in depth look at the maps of the possible states and stages, discussions about how to determine what experience was what, and in general anything that has to do with actually practicing rather than what typically occurs in standard meditation circles.
In general our basic principles and attitudes favor pragmatism over dogmatism, diligent practice over blind faith, openness regarding what the techniques may lead to, a lack of taboos surrounding talking about attainments, and the spirit of mutual, supportive adventurers on the path rather than rigid student-teacher relationships. Make yourself at home. Discover the possibilties of how straightforward, down-to-Earth, and practical the Dharma can be. May all find something here that is of value.
[It should be noted that, while this is in theory an open place, there will be times when moderation helps keep things in the realm of reason.]
Special thanks to Ian Blakely at sinikdesign@yahoo.com for the logo image. Oh, yeah: the ads have nothing to do with us and are just how wetpaint makes its cash.
In general our basic principles and attitudes favor pragmatism over dogmatism, diligent practice over blind faith, openness regarding what the techniques may lead to, a lack of taboos surrounding talking about attainments, and the spirit of mutual, supportive adventurers on the path rather than rigid student-teacher relationships. Make yourself at home. Discover the possibilties of how straightforward, down-to-Earth, and practical the Dharma can be. May all find something here that is of value.
[It should be noted that, while this is in theory an open place, there will be times when moderation helps keep things in the realm of reason.]
Special thanks to Ian Blakely at sinikdesign@yahoo.com for the logo image. Oh, yeah: the ads have nothing to do with us and are just how wetpaint makes its cash.
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| ryanoelke | Ideas for Term Paper - Paths, Madhyamaka | 0 | Sep 24 2008, 10:22 PM EDT by ryanoelke | |
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Thread started: Sep 24 2008, 10:22 PM EDT
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Hey everyone - I haven't posted until now, but have found the community valuable when I have explored some issues in practice, and, of course, I have many a great dharma conversations with Vince. I hope to share more of my practice (I've been a dark night funk without knowing it, hence my relunctance/aversion to talk practice. But now that I know, things are looking up:P).
The reason for my starting this thread was to field suggestions for two papers I'm writing this semester for my MA at Naropa. I'm asking you all because I want to write papers that matter, are tied to practice with the intention that the path can be realized in this lifetime. My hope is that what I research would actually be valued in a community like this. I'm not in to writing dry academic papers nor on subjects tainted by dogmatic models of enlightenment. Tricky to do in my setting, but doable. The two papers are related to 1. The Five Path Model of Tibetan Buddhism 2. Madhyamaka (as taught in Tibetan Buddhism). If you have any suggestions that are line with my intentions, please share them. The papers will be around 20 pages, so it's not extensive, but enough to get going. |
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| Hokai | How to minimize unprofitable discussion | 16 | Sep 4 2008, 7:43 PM EDT by CheleK | |
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Thread started: Sep 3 2008, 3:09 PM EDT
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So far this wiki/forum has been doing fairly well, but from time to time we get threads that get way too much attention, though being basically about not much. Also, from time to time - and it will grow as our member base grows - we get posts that seek attention in a personal manner, trying to present one's own story and one's very own angle - usually not an original one, and often flatly uninformed - only to argue about this or that point while losing all sight of what this whole thing is about in the first place, namely goal-oriented practice and non-speculative, non-dogmatic exchange of dharmic tips and tricks. So let me quote from Dan's intro:
"...pragmatism over dogmatism, diligent practice over blind faith, openness regarding what the techniques may lead to, a lack of taboos surrounding talking about attainments, and the spirit of mutual, supportive adventurers on the path..." So, how do you see us moving in that direction and gently restoring such movement whenever we find the discussion straying into biographic irrelevance, obsession over personal feelings and opinions, entertaining speculation over ill-understood concepts, guessing instead of finding out, and wishcraft instead of vigorous practice? How do we cultivate not just courteous, not even just conscious, but enlightened communication?
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| danielmingram | Imagine | 4 | Jul 5 2008, 9:44 AM EDT by MikeTek | |
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Imaging a world where the dharma was just like anything else you wanted to learn, like playing piano or mathematics. You studied with people who were not afraid to tell you what they were capable of, you practiced techniques that everyone expected to work, you talked honestly with your fellow dharma adventurers about what was going and helped each other to progress, you attained to the expected results, and when you did so, you were not ridiculed or made to shut up about it, but instead were viewed as one more successful practitioner of the art who was there to support those coming up and also still learning from others. This is my vision of the dharma, and I know it could be like that because I have experienced it, just on limited scales with small groups of people. That's the kind of world I hope to promote, and this is one small step in that direction. I hope this site will facilitate the discussion of how to make that world a reality. -Daniel
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