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| Adam_West | Fundamental Non-discrimination | 11 | Yesterday, 11:39 AM EST by haquan | |||
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Thread started: Jul 12 2008, 6:07 AM EDT
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Hi all,
I've been lurking on this forum for a while now. I thought I would see what you guys thought about the method of no method found in Chan (Zen), Dzogchen, MahaMudra and Taoism. Just sitting in Fundamental Non-discrimination. Just relaxed, still awareness of what is. Do you guys feel, assuming one is capable of actually achieving it, one can practice this alone and skip structured shamatha and vipassna practice? Do you guys think "just sitting" can take one all the way to enlightenment - the realisation of one's fundamental nature as it is here and now?
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| monkeymind | Noting Practice Questions (page: 1 2) | 27 | Friday, 5:28 PM EST by monkeymind | |||
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Thread started: Feb 26 2008, 3:44 PM EST
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I've been experimenting with noting practice for a few weeks now. Up until now, I would just pay attention without consciously forming words. Some questions:
Which kind of words do you use? Nouns or gerund verbs (i.e "in-breath" or "breathing in")? Does it matter? I found that short words more useful. Also, for longer sensations, do you note repeatedly or in a drawn-out fashion? "itch, itch, itch" or "iiiiiiiiiitch"? When a sensation "overlays" the breath, do you alternate between noting the breath and that sensation? "itching, rising, itching, rising..."? Non-verbally, I could watch both without a sense of alternating, but perhaps there was (very quick) alternation after all. When a memory or an anticipation arises, verbalizing "memory" or "anticipation" seems to stop it quite abruptly. My previous practice of non-verbal attention allowed me to watch it sputter out. All in all, noting practice has a very alert, active flavor, and I'll stick with it for now. I tried non-verbal attention again the other day, for comparison, and found that my thoughts would wander far more often. But maybe that was just the state I was in that day.
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| MagicianOfChange | anyone else dealing with what appear to be squids, or spirits? (page: 1 2 3) | 58 | Nov 15 2008, 1:19 PM EST by betawave | |||
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Thread started: Aug 28 2008, 7:43 PM EDT
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I have been doing a lot of body awareness meditation and I have found a reoccurring theme is various contact with what appear to be squid-like beings in the non-dualistic vision. Before I began meditating, in pitch darkness or with my eyes closed I use to see different colored patterns, and I had really bad sinus head aches.
Through meditation, I have learned to relax my sinus and jaw but now I find I have aches and pains in my body which move around. Frequently they tend to end up over my face and frontal cranial area. At which point I sometimes see what appear to be squid-like forms in the darkness at night overlayed on the colors and patterns that I saw before. Sometimes these things have quite a bit of detail, and remind me of various deep sea life forms, other times they seem more like energetic scum. Generally, I try to extract them from my body through various methods although it seems when old ones are removed, new things come in to fill the space, throughout the day. I will feel the space in my sinus cavities fill up, and it feels like things are moving around in there. Sometimes their origin feels external, other times internal. Has anyone experienced anything similar to this? Does anyone know of any readings, schools or modalities that deal with this kind of thing? I've been looking into Shamanistic paths, but they are not easily assessable.
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| Dan_K | How has subtle energy (kundalini, chi, etc.) affected your practice? | 2 | Nov 10 2008, 10:15 PM EST by CheleK | |||
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Thread started: Oct 28 2008, 5:11 PM EDT
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So, I am aware that in Daniel’s model the A+P can correspond with kundalini awakening, and that the energy channels are often erratic and blocked during the Dark Night, and that it is difficult if not impossible to correlate the development of the energy body with enlightenment, however, they seem to have some sort of relationship. I am wondering what else people have observed about subtle energies related to vipassana and shamatha and:
a) For those with stream entry or higher, if that attainment led to a change in subtle energy b) For those who practice qi gong, pranayama, aikido, TCM, ayurveda, etc. how has this helped (or not) especially during the Dark Night? c) It seems to me that body sweeping, anapanasati, and metta (possibly other) practices might affect subtle energy. I would love to hear input. My working hypothesis is that cultivating and clearing subtle energy channels is conducive to attaining jhana, as it encourages rapture and pleasant sensations. Doing Qi Gong as a preliminary to Shamatha seems to be quite effective. With vipassana it is less clear. My energy body has suffered a fair bit I believe due to vipassana jhana, both spiking at A+P and stagnating at other times, but doing tai chi, qi gong, and yoga helps. How bout you? Dan
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| awouldbehipster | Eating Times and Meditation | 19 | Oct 24 2008, 8:41 AM EDT by nathan28 | |||
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Thread started: Aug 20 2008, 3:07 PM EDT
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Hello everyone. This is the first thread I've started at DhO, so please bare with me…
I'm curious to know how many of you schedule meal times around meditation practice. I'm asking because I normally eat breakfast and drink coffee immediately after waking up. My meditation practice comes after breakfast. This morning I decided to sit before eating (but still after drinking coffee). I found that my level of concentration during this sitting far surpassed my normal abilities, and the amount of fatigue in my body decreased as well. Could waiting to eat breakfast until after meditation help me to focus, or was this just a fluke? I have never been to a meditation retreat, so I don't quite know what the feeding schedule is like on such retreats. Would anyone like to share from their experience how this plays out? I'm hoping to get a small piece of practical advice from some of the more advance practitioners (which in my case means just about any of you). Thanks, Jackson
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| monkeymind | How to investigate no-self? (page: 1 2 3) | 59 | Oct 16 2008, 5:01 PM EDT by cmarti | |||
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Thread started: Sep 23 2008, 12:21 PM EDT
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Dear Dharma Overground
Any good hints on investigating the no-self characteristic in meditation, specifically when noting? In my practice I currently use the time-honored notes "not-me" "not-mine" and "not-myself" (actually not the last one, since the difference to "not-me" seems to subtle for noting). As a variation, I also often note these as questions: "me?" "mine?". Cheers, Florian
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| SongMt | dark retreats | 4 | Sep 24 2008, 10:40 PM EDT by ryanoelke | |||
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Thread started: Sep 7 2008, 2:13 AM EDT
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Hello all,
i was wondering if anyone knew of a place in the u.s. that accomodated darkness retreats. in fact, i just need the actual facility and living arrangement for a week or so, for training in 0% light. Any help or links are greatly appreciated, thanks!
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| betawave | meditation limbo | 11 | Sep 22 2008, 6:56 AM EDT by DharmaPutz | |||
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Thread started: Sep 11 2008, 9:28 AM EDT
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I’m in a bit of a meditation limbo these days and was wondering if anyone had any advice.
I sit for an hour in the morning. Generally, it goes like this: I settle by watching “the breath”, treating it like a constant thing. Usually I settle quickly, but after 10-15 minutes I start drifting a little around, after which I use the energy from “coming back to the present” to refocus on the breathing. Then after reaching a plateau in settling, I follow the breath more as a series of sensations for about twenty or thirty minutes. Then I open it up and allow noting to go where it will. Through out this there is a feeling of deepening, concentrating, and stability... until recently. These days, the quality of meditation is much more variable. I’m finding myself day dreaming a lot more. Similar to being on a long interstate roadtrip. I’m paying attention, but I’m daydreaming, too. The field of attention is wide but non-distinct. The feeling of the meditation is very light, mostly neutral sensations. And rather than feeling a deepening or concentrating. As an overlay, if I’m not fully participating in the meditation, there is a slight and fairly consistent feeling of annoyance or frustration to it. The location of the negative feeling is unclear to me. Sometimes it is a “holding” of some body tension as “mine”. But more frequently, I “look” for it in order to “see” it, but it seems to disappear before I find it.
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| Hokai | One Word (page: 1 2) | 24 | Sep 19 2008, 7:15 PM EDT by DharmaPutz | |||
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Thread started: Mar 17 2008, 7:50 PM EDT
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If you'd have just one word to express your core practice at this point, what would it be? What is the signifier you'd use as the finger pointing for you at this time, at this point on your path? What comes to mind first? Give your word, and then - if you need to, and definitely if you must - elaborate on that.
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| Dan_K | Immersion and Intimacy | 14 | Sep 7 2008, 1:45 AM EDT by Gozen | |||
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Thread started: Aug 21 2008, 4:54 AM EDT
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Hello everyone,
First I must attempt to express my starry-eyed gratitude to Mr. Ingram for his book, as well as the moderators and everyone else here. Muchos gracias. I began paying attention to sensations of intimacy, as suggested somewhere in “Mastering…” I take note of any sense of immediacy or immersion. My intention is to become alert to the presence or absence of direct identification in the most specific, precise manner. What I have noticed, initially, is that the sensation of intimacy most often involves an overlap of the sensations of the front of my face (and sometimes a mental image of it), the mental dialogue, and a proximity which supercedes most other information. There is also a sentimental aspect to the arrangement. This all feels very solid until I begin to contrast the mental/physical aspects. It is especially interesting to note the contrast when thoughts lack the sense of intimacy, and instead appear distant and robotic. Because the object is so immediate and ‘personal’ and therefore overlooked, I most often only become privy to the process as it begins to pass away, or as an after-image. Luckily, sometimes it persists long enough to get a more clear picture and even see it flicker. I hope to isolate the pure sense of intimacy apart from the objects it commonly arises with and penetrate it. Any thoughts/advice? Dan
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| Djonma | Dream Yoga and visualisation | 5 | Sep 4 2008, 12:04 PM EDT by Djonma | |||
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Thread started: Sep 3 2008, 11:42 AM EDT
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OK so I guess this is my first real post, and I thought I'd dive right in at the deep end with some dream yoga and visualisation stuff.
I finally caught up on the Buddhist Geeks podcasts, and I listened to the two about Dream Yoga with Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche on the long bus journey on the way to my new flat this morning. Now I've been really into these podcasts, and lots of them have grabbed my attention in various ways, and I thought I'd go over them all again with pen and paper and jot down notes and ideas and what I think about things, but this one just grabbed me so strongly, I have to think about it now. Bear with me as I've not really been encouraged to talk about experiences before, so this is new to me, and I'm not great at wording things sometimes. I don't have 'The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep' and I've never looked at any Dream Yoga before, so I'm going solely off what was discussed on the podcasts, and the tiny bit I've just googled. I do plan on getting the book, as soon as I can afford it which should be next week, and hopefully that might answer some of my questions, hey it might might answer the whole lot, but I'm pretty sure I'll have these questions anyway. From what was said, and the little information I've picked up online today, I think I may have been doing this all my life without realising. I'll work backwards, which may be an odd place to start but is how I've worked this out. More recently in my Buddhist life, I've started a kinda of 'mini practice' that I started to do before sleep. Not a sitting meditating, or doing sadhanas kind of practice, just something I did IN bed. Mentally sitting, just visualising myself sitting doing clear mind meditation mostly, though sometimes other types, like asking Vajrapani to guide my dreams, etc. [into next post...]
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| monkeymind | "Nada" sound | 19 | Aug 28 2008, 7:59 PM EDT by MagicianOfChange | |||
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Thread started: Feb 7 2008, 6:04 PM EST
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Does anyone here have experience or opinions about the "nada", that high-pitched tv-tube-like sound?
It's not distracting, but I can focus on it easily. I usually watch the breath as my meditation object, but sometimes, I try to be aware of the breath and the sound simultaneously, which I find interesting, because the breath has a low frequency and the sound a high one. Cheers, Florian
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| mai88 | weird raptures survey (page: 1 2) | 37 | Aug 28 2008, 7:25 AM EDT by mai88 | |||
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Thread started: Apr 11 2008, 4:19 AM EDT
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Hello everybody,
I think it might be interesting to share some experiences concerning raptures since they can be so out of the normal. To start out I´ll share mine: The only really weird rapture I had so far was that suddenly my body seemed to explode and lose it´s shape. When this wore off I had the strange feeling of being 10 meters tall (with the eyes shut). That was really funny! So I would love to hear your takes on this, have a good day, Martin
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| monkeymind | "Getting stuck in Samatha Jhana" vs "Kundalini Sickness" | 12 | Aug 18 2008, 3:51 AM EDT by mai88 | |||
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Thread started: Aug 6 2008, 3:27 PM EDT
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There's a lot of concern among hard-core insight practitioners about "getting stuck in Samatha Jhana", and I can certainly understand the reasoning, and know some of the horror stories of people mistaking the formless realms for enlightenment.
On the other hand, there is a fair share of "Kundalini Sickness" stories out there about people overdoing the insight practice (or something related) at the expense of, variously, their health, sanity, etc. Even Nathan here at DhO has darkly hinted at personal experiences with some of the more unpleasant effects of the lower vipassana Jhanas. Not being advanced enough in my practice to have personally encountered either extreme, I'm very curious about your opinions or experiences on how (if at all) more samatha practice might attenuate some of the kundalini-like effects of vipassana. Cheers, Florian
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| monkeymind | walking and noting | 7 | Aug 14 2008, 12:39 AM EDT by monkeymind | |||
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Thread started: Aug 13 2008, 9:52 AM EDT
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Hi Everybody,
During walking meditation today, walking fairly briskly along the river (no turning around after a few steps) and noting "left" - "right" while paying attention to the feet touching the ground, I hit a state where I experienced my field of vision swaying, very similar to being slightly drunk, but without the light-headedness or vertigo. It was as if the "optical stabilizer" which usually corrects for the swaying vision when walking had shut down. Also, the ground seemed awfully unreal all of a sudden, like a sponge or a layer of fog that would solidify just in time in the spot where I would next set my foot, or somehow rise up to meet my foot. I had no trouble walking, however. So, was that a (slow) vibration of insight practice, or some really dynamic samatha state? I've hit "sitting on air" and "world revolving around my diaphagm" sensations in sitting samatha meditation, but the quality was quite different when walking today - when I stood still, the ground seemed solid enough, and the swaying stopped, but the effect resumed when I started walking again. It was the second time I hit this state today, the first time was a few days ago. I tried to note the swaying, but couldn't think of anything but "left - right" which didn't seem useful, so I continued to note my steps instead. Thanks for any advice, Cheers, Florian
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| monkeymind | Dozing off | 7 | Aug 9 2008, 7:05 AM EDT by monkeymind | |||
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Thread started: Aug 6 2008, 2:38 PM EDT
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My S.O. winked at me maliciously after my meditation session last night. "Sitting indeed. You were snoring in there! A fine meditator you are!" - "Was not" - "Too!" and so on :)
Anyway, I usually notice when I start to doze off, and yes, sometimes only after the fact... and I duly note the event, trying to catch as many sensations of it as I can. It still is a tricky object for meditation :) So, what are your recipes for dealing with drowsiness? Apart from visualizing brightness and taking deep, invigorating breaths, and getting up for a walk? Cheers, Florian
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| ccasey | Going with the Flow: Ways and Means | 3 | Jul 21 2008, 1:01 PM EDT by ccasey | |||
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During quick noting practice, the breath slows down to almost nothing, then I lose all contact with the body, and enter a vast space, look around, and then understand local space, conditional body and vastness, and there is a preference (or integrity) to stay with this process. My concern is that I have no idea in real time how long this takes, because it is new during quite long sits, (only three times now). Now that this is happening, (and who know if it will continue either), never the less, I have a concern about going to a sesshin, where there are definite times for period of standing , bowing, sitting, etc. Most of the folks stand up pretty quickly and seem happy to be able to get up. I'd prefer to stay and/or move slower. I can hardly move an inch after knowing this, or I move slowly, knowing how new this is. I need to let it happen irregardless less of what is happening around me, right? It is complex, with awareness all around and within, so trust the process, right? I'm preparing for another three and a half day sesshin- zen-soto style. I know that a sesshin is a good local option for staying with the process (for a parent), but having to move my body when my reality is that there is no body...
Also, usually, before this happens, I surrender my heart, and/or my heart surrenders, in deep racking sobs of openness, I sense it coming, (at home, I feel relaxed and open to this process, although it's not easy). When I talked about these feelings in docusan, I was told that I must stop feeling, but the visceral release seems to bring on the possibility for more awareness. Anyone with similar experience or feedback is welcome. | ||||||